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JCP.next JSR1 list: April 22 2011
JCP.next JSR1 list of proposed changes
Updated April 22 2011
Documents to be modified
- The Process Document
- The EC Members' Guide
- Create a normative EC Standing Rules document from
Appendix A of the Process Document and the currently
non-normative EC Members Guide.
- This will be referenced from the Process Doc and will address issues
such as:
- Meeting schedules, quorum requirements.
- Voting procedures.
- Publish EC meeting agenda in advance.
- Specify whether agenda items are for discussion or for action.
- NOTE: once created, this document will not require a new JSR to modify
- instead this can be done by a vote of the ECs after a one-month review
period.
- The Spec Lead Guide
- Non-normative: referenced from Process Document
Categories
Transparency
Expert Group transparency
- Draft language required for Process
Document:
- All significant business must be carried out on public mailing lists.
- EG-private mailing list may be maintained for administrative matters.
- Issues must be tracked through a publicly viewable issue tracking mechanism.
- Expert Groups must respond publicly to all comments before JSRs can
move to the next stage.
- We have language requiring comments to be published, but not requiring
responses - this must be tightened up.
- Given the existing structure of the document, this new
language won't easily fit anywhere.
- Add Section 0/General
Procedures that
apply to all of the subsequently-described stages, to avoid duplication.
Executive Committee transparency
- Create formal and normative EC Standing Rules document from the
non-normative EC Members Guide.
- Draft language required for Process Document changes:
- Address PMO/Oracle Legal review of license
terms (currently undocumented)
- Recommendation:
- Oracle legal drafts an opinion - presents to EC before the
appropriate vote.
- What if the license is in clear violation (eg, Apache license
for Spec license) and ECs vote to approve this?
- We'll face that problem if/when it occurs.
- TODO: Patrick to review this suggestion
with legal.
- Need an SLA to guarantee turnaround (no unreasonable delay.)
License transparency
- We have draft language for Process Document
changes:
- Require that when the license terms associated with a JSR are significantly
changed from the previous release, this is explicitly called out. We should
also require change logs for the RI and TCK.
- Note that strictly speaking the change log does not list all changes
"after Final Release" but only those since the previous release.
We should therefore change "after Final Release" to "since
the previous release."
- Recommendation - in the Process
Document change:
- definition - Change Log: An area accessible
from the Spec Page that lists all changes made to the Specification
after Final Release. There are three sections: PROPOSED
(changes not yet made to the Specification), ACCEPTED (changes
made), and DEFERRED (change items to be considered in a
new JSR).
- To:
- definition - Change Log: An area accessible
from the Spec Page that lists all changes made to the Specification,
RI, TCK, and licenses since the previous release. There are
six sections: PROPOSED (changes not yet made to the Specification),
ACCEPTED (changes made to the Specification), DEFERRED (changes
to be considered in a new JSR) and RI (changes made to the
RI), TCK (changes made to the TCK) and LICENSING (changes
to licensing terms.)
- Draft language required for Process Document changes:
- All
approved licenses must be offered "for ever." New (modified)
licenses may also be offered subsequently.
- NOTE: requiring licensees to adopt the latest TCK when updating
their product may force them to accept new and unreasonable terms.
- Under these conditions, they should be permitted to take the
updated TCK on the original licensing terms.
TCK transparency
- Draft language required for General Requirements section
of the Process
Document ( Patrick TODO):
- Recommendations
- Publish lists of compatible implementations so users can see
who's compatible and (by implication) who's not.
- Spec Leads must submit to the PMO (quarterly, and at every
Maintenance Release) a list of all devices/platforms that have
been certified as compatible.
- The PMO will publish these lists on jcp.org (and will publicise
their existence.)
- Emphasize the value of compatibility & the brand and the
risks of using incompatible implementations.
- This is a marketing issue - cannot be solved by Process
Doc change.
- TCK documentation must be publicly available.
- TCK User's Guide must include
Compatibility Requirements.
- Non-recommendations (reconsider these for JSR2)
- Do not publish lists of incompatible implementations.
- This is legally risky, and unnecessary (the list of incompatible
implementations can be derived from the list of compatible
implementations.)
- Do not (yet) publish information about optional features that are
implemented.
- This is too difficult to implement (what level of granularity
would we choose?)
- Do not strengthen the TCK quality requirements (except for requiring
Compatibility Requirements)
- Better to police
what we have now.
- Do not require more formal reporting requirements for conformance
claims.
- Would require generalizing compatibility requirements.
- TBD
- Permit and encourage the discussion of individual TCK test results.
- We permit this now for OpenJDK testing - any value to generalizing
to commercial testing?
- No value to discussing with the general public, but there
may be value in discussing with the licensees' customers.
IP flow transparency
- We have draft language for Process Document
changes:
- Review, clarify, expand the brief reference to anti-trust compliance..
- Draft language required for Process Document:
- Clarify Terms of Use for collaboration software used by
Expert Groups
- Should ensure sufficient IP grants, but not impose requirements
more strict than the JSPA
- Recommendation:
- During the JSR submission process the Spec lead tells
the PMO what collab software will be used.
- Oracle legal reviews the Terms Of Use and reports to
the EC.
- EC approves, or requires an alternative.
- If OK - add to approved list. If not, look elsewhere
- We must ensure that java.net is on the Approved
List.
- Must deal with possible changes to terms of use over
time.
- May need to review each time, even if previously
reviewed.
- TODO: Patrick to talk to Oracle Legal about this.
- We may need to delay to JSR2
because of the legal effort required.
Participation
- Draft language required for EC Standing Rules:
- Add semi-annual EC teleconferences that all JCP members are free
to attend and where the agenda chosen from topics suggested by the
membership.
- Hold an annual open meeting at JavaOne.
- Create a public alias (with archive) for members to provide feedback
to the ECs.
- Draft language required for Process Document:
- No barriers to participation in Expert Groups.
- Requests to join EGs and the Spec Lead's responses, and decisions
to remove or replace EG members, must be made in public.
- 2.1.3 Uncooperative or Unresponsive Expert Group members.
- 2/3 majority of the EG can vote out an EG member (the company,
or the person representing that company.)
- EG members should make a reasonable
effort to resolve any such issues among themselves, for example
by asking the member company to replace the representative.
- NOTE: this paragraph is buggy - switches to Spec Lead
in the middle. Duplicate it so we have one section dealing
with Spec Leads and one with EG members..
- 2.1.3a Uncooperative, Unresponsive, or Inactive Spec
Leads
- 2/3 of EG can vote to refer a problem to the PMO. The PMO may
ask the Spec Lead organization to replace the Spec Lead (individual)
or to seek an alternative Spec Lead.
- If seeking an alternative Spec Lead, make sure this syncs
with the Transfer Ballot language.
- Individual members' votes - how to avoid ballot-stuffing?
- Recommendation:
- Change this language in the Process Doc: "All JCP
Members are eligible to vote in a ratification ballot subject
to the provision that if a Member has majority-ownership
of one or more other Members, then that group of Members
will collectively have 1 vote." to
“...has majority-ownership of or is the employer of
one or more other Members...”
- NOTE: this doesn't deal with the JUG/JUG-member relationship.
We think that's OK.
- It might be difficult for the PMO to enforce this
in practice, but we would have the authority to do
so if necessary or to take corrective action after
the fact.
- Need similar language to clarify that employees of EC members
are ineligible to run for election as individuals.
- Draft language required for EC Standing Rules:
- Penalties for EC members who do not attend meetings..
- Miss two meetings in a row - lose voting privileges until
you have attended two in a row.
- Non-voting members don't count towards quorum.
- Make sure we distinguish between voting and non-voting
members elsewhere in the document.
- EC may waive this penalty under exceptional circumstances.
- Miss 6 meetings in a row (or 5, or 4?)
and you lose your seat.
- EC may waive this penalty under exceptional circumstances.
- Need regular reports from the PMO to the EC and warnings to those
who approach the limits.
- Penalties for EC members who don't vote?
- Can't take away voting privileges. We could expel from EC in
extreme cases. (But if people aren't voting they're probably not
attending meetings either...)
Agility
- We have draft language for Process Document:
- Time-outs for inactive JSRs.
- See JSR Renewal Ballot suggestion from JSR 306.
- Reduce the numbers: 12 months to Early Draft, 2 years to
Public Draft Review, 3 years to Final
Release.
- Make sure this is sync'd with the Dormant
JSR language.
- Draft language required for Process Document:
- Clarify the Maintenance process
- Spec Leads want the EG to persist after Final Release. The
Process Doc states that the EG must disband.
- This was presumably to ensure that IP vests in a clean manner.
Need legal confirmation
- Recommendation:
- The Expert Group must shut down and be
re-formed at each release.
- Spec-lead will typically recruit from the previous
EG, perhaps adding some new members.
- We need to maintain the history of which members
have been on the EG between its most recent re-formation
and the next release.
- These are the members who have potentially
contributed IP.
- Need legal check on this, but hopefully we can complete
this for JSR1.
- Clean up Maintenance Release requirements. Currently there's
no absolute requirement for the Maintenance Lead to actually
deliver an updated spec, RI, and TCK.
- The process simply
says "the
maintenance changes will be considered final when the RI
and TCK are synchronized with the Specification."
- We should require
a formal Maintenance Release just
as we do a Final Release.
- What should the process be?
- For Maintenance Review we get a change log, an updated (supposedly-final)
Spec, an updated RI and TCK if necessary (or a statement explaining
why these aren't necessary.)
- We post these for review.
- At the end of the review period, if no objections by EC, approval
is automatic.
- If there are objections, an exception ballot is held.
- Alternatively, should we get rid of the exception ballot process
and always require an approval ballot, just as we do with Final Releases?
- Recommendation: yes
- We could then harmonize the two processes (JSR development/release
and Maintenance)
- Clarify requirements for RI and TCK to be posted within x
weeks of Final Release and Maintenance Release.
- We post the Spec, but never the RI and TCK. We get a URL.
- When we get a working URL the state becomes "final" -
IP vests at this point.
- What if the URL is later broken - becomes non-functional?
- PMO gives Spec/Maintenance lead 30 days to fix.
- If no fix, revert to Proposed Final Draft or Maintenance
Review stage; must complete the process again.
Cleanup
- Draft language required for Process Document:
- Remove Process Doc section 1.1.4 J2ME building blocks
- Correct typos and errors in Process Document.
- Remove the ambiguity of the term Spec Lead in
the Process Doc (sometimes it refers to the Member and sometimes to
the person representing the Member and leading the EG.)
- See Wayne Carr document for explanation.
Procedural issues
- When will the changes in the Process Document take effect?
- The JSPA currently prohibits us from applying Process Document changes
to JSRs that are in progress:
- "The Process is described on the JCP Web Site (at http:/jcp.org),
and may be revised from time to time in accordance with terms
set forth in the Process document, provided that no such revisions
shall apply to any JSR that has already been approved for development."
- We may fix this in JSR2 but for now we'll need to apply moral pressure to in-flight JSRs to adopt the new
procedures.
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