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JCP EC minutes (public): December 12 2013

Executive Committee Meeting Minutes
for December 10 2013

version 0.1: December 10 2013


December 10, 2013





  • Patrick Curran, Heather Vancura
Executive Committee
  • ARM Paul Manfrini – present
  • Azul Systems John Pampuch– present
  • CloudBees – not present
  • Credit Suisse – Susanne Cech – present
  • Eclipse – Mike Milinkovich – present
  • Ericsson – David Partain present
  • Freescale– excused
  • Fujitsu – Mike DeNicola – present
  • Gemalto Thomas Lampart – present
  • Goldman Sachs – John Weir – present
  • HP – Scott Jameson – present
  • IBMexcused
  • Intel – Shirish Aundhe – present
  • Werner Keil – present
  • London Java Community – Martijn Verburg, Jim Gough – present
  • MoroccoJUG – Mohamed Taman – present
  • Nokia – Ben Wangpresent
  • Oracle – Don Deutsch – present
  • RedHat – Scott Stark – present
  • SAP – excused
  • Software AG Greg Luck present
  • SouJava – Bruno Souza present
  • TOTVS – Hernan Perrone present
  • Twitter – Chris Aniszczyk present

Total attendance: 21 of 25 voting members

Since 75% of the EC's 25 voting members were present, the EC was quorate for this meeting

Changes in status as a result of attendance at this meeting

The EC Standing Rules state the following penalties for non-attendance at EC meetings (note that those who participate in face-to-face meetings by phone are officially counted as absent):

  • Missing two meetings in a row results in a loss of voting privileges until two consecutive meetings have been attended.
  • Missing five meetings in a row, or missing two-thirds of the meetings in any consecutive 12-month period results in loss of the EC seat.

There are no changes in voting status as a result of this meeting. update

Patrick explained that is being migrated to a datacenter in Austin, Texas. While much of the site is available we are still experiencing problems. He promised to inform the EC when everything is operational.

Action Item review

We reviewed the Action Item tracking file.

EC stats

Heather presented the usual EC stats.

Dates and locations for 2014 f2f meetings

Patrick confirmed that the dates and locations for our 2014 meetings are now final. The calendar on has been updated accordingly.

The January f2f meeting and the User Group Summit

Patrick explained that the January f2f meeting will be held in conjunction with Oracle's User Group Summit meeting. He asked EC members for suggestions for agenda items.

He encouraged EC members to attend the JCP session at the Summit, and also to attend the social event on Wednesday evening. Bruno Souza invited EC members to attend a barbeque at Stephen Chin's house on the Tuesday evening.

IP Working Group report

Patrick again encouraged EC members to provide feedback on the IP Flow document (only RedHat has provided feedback so far). He reported that the Working Group is now reviewing the Process Document for possible changes. They expect to complete that work this week, after which the WG will probably adjourn until after the winter holiday, by which time hopefully we will have received feedback on the IP Flow document.

Individuals Working Group report

Patrick noted that many EC members have not yet responded to the second Doodle poll on voting rights for Affiliate members. He encouraged those who haven't yet voted to do so.

Heather reported that the Individuals Working Group has met only once since the last EC meeting, and that it was continuing to focus on the various proposals for Affiliate member voting rights. She reiterated the need for EC members to state their preference in the Doodle poll. She said that the WG is now considering the possibility of permitting employed individuals to join as full rather than Affiliate members through an exception process that would require the employer to sign a strengthened Exhibit B.

Patrick explained that the goal would be to ensure that corporations whose employees join the JCP as full members would make the same IP commitments (particularly with respect to patents) as corporate JCP members.

Mike DeNicola noted that the "strengthened Exhibit B" could be considered a "JSPA-lite" and suggested that it might even be the same as the Contributor Agreement that we have already discussed. Patrick responded that this was an interesting suggestion. This would simplify things - if an individual signs this agreement in their own right then they can join as an Affiliate, whereas if their employer also signs then the individual could join as a full member.

Wermer Keil again argued that individuals who join the JCP - particularly those who are self-employed and therefore automatically entitled to join as full members - should be able to sign the appropriate agreement only once rather than having to sign it for each JSR they participate in.

Patrick reported that Anish Karmarkar had expressed concerns that if we permit employed individuals to join as full members this might be seen as encouraging corporations not to join, but instead to have their employees join in their place.

Heather reported that the Working Group will continue to discuss this proposal, and that they will meet again next Tuesday.