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JSR #209
Advanced Graphics and User Interface Optional Package for the J2ME^TM Platform
JSR Review Ballot
Ballot duration: 2003-03-18 to: 2003-03-31

These are the final results of the JSR Review Ballot for JSR #209. The Executive Committee for ME has approved this ballot.

Votes

BEA Systems

IBM

Insignia Solutions

Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd.

Motorola

Nokia Corporation

PalmSource, Inc.

Philips Electronics UK Ltd

Research In Motion, LTD (RIM)

Siemens AG

Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB

Sony International (Europe) GmbH

Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Symbian Ltd

Texas Instruments Inc.

Zucotto Wireless

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On 2003-03-31 IBM voted No with the following comment:
Given the size of this proposed API, we are concerned with the suitability for J2ME devices.  If the target platform has enough resources, both memory and processing power,  to support Personal Profile + JSR-209; it would likely be better served by a J2SE execution environment.  In addition, this JSR will cause fragmentation by creating another variant of Swing, Java 2D, etc; for J2ME.  Evolving this technology within J2SE assures platform consistency and no fragmentation.
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On 2003-03-31 PalmSource, Inc. voted No with the following comment:
This is an enormous API, so we too are concerned about the suitability for J2ME. If the device has unlimited resources, or at least enough to support this, then it should just support standard edition. 
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On 2003-03-25 Symbian Ltd voted Yes with the following comment:
Symbian accepts this proposal, but recommends that
(a) this JSR is split into 3 optional packages
(b) the EG takes a general look at UI options, rather than assuming a Swing subset on CDC
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On 2003-03-27 Sun Microsystems, Inc. voted Yes with no comment.
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On 2003-03-28 Philips Electronics UK Ltd voted Yes with the following comment:
This vote is conditional on the EG meeting the following conditions for community review;
a) that it deliver Java2D and input methods as optional packages usable separately from swing
b) that it demonstrate it is targetting a set of devices which are clearly not capable of supporting J2SE and are unlikely to evolve to be able to support SE
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On 2003-03-30 Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. voted Yes with the following comment:
- EG must focus on PP and PBP as stated in JSR. J2ME/CLDC is out of scope.
- EG should coordinate with JSR-62 and JSR-129.
- Also support Philips recommendation that EG investigate delivering three optional packages (swing, java2d, rest).

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On 2003-03-31 Nokia Corporation voted Yes with the following comment:
We have concerns about the fit for J2ME devices. Especially since the JSR form text is pretty detailed in the approach, for instance in describing which parts/components of SE will be copied, does it really leave space for discussion. Our concern is that the EG's hands are tied by the details in the JSR form to really see which components are needed for J2ME to make it fit, this despite the fact that the Spec Lead (Andreas Binder) has indicated that EG can discuss about the  suitability to J2ME and target devices. Also the incredibly tight schedule suggests that there is not time enough to think - just do the copying.

One concern is as well that Swing allows for different look&feel for application by application (if they choose to), which leads to a plethora of looks and might confuse the users.

I would have wished some more time to really discuss about this approach - but vote yes at this point.
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On 2003-03-31 Motorola voted Yes with the following comment:
Motorola votes yes on this proposal, but wishes to express concern that the JSR remained focused on the stated scope. It is good to consider alternate ideas but maintaining the scope of your focus will increase your chances of success. If the spec deviates significantly from the scope, we will have to reconsider this at community review.
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On 2003-03-31 Research In Motion, LTD (RIM) voted Yes with the following comment:
The JSR should be split into building blocks since large "all or nothing" JSRs are not appropriate for the J2ME space.  The dependencies on JSR62 and JSR129 need to be resolved early in the process also.

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On 2003-03-31 Siemens AG voted Yes with the following comment:
Siemens votes Yes to the JSR regarding the scope as submitted (should not extended to cover CLDC/MIDP).
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On 2003-03-31 Texas Instruments Inc. voted Yes with the following comment:
TI agrees with the comments that Swing and Java2D should be separately optional.
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On 2003-03-31 BEA Systems voted Yes with the following comment:
We share the scope and structure concerns expressed by other voters, and suggest that the Expert Group and Spec Lead address those issues before Community Draft.
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