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JCP EC minutes: December 4-5, 2007

Executive Committee Meeting Summary
for 4-5 December, 2007

Date

December 4-5, 2007

Location

Marlborough, MA (hosted by Jean-Marie Dautelle)

Agenda

Thursday August 16
Wednesday August 17
  • Welcome
  • PMO Topics: Patrick Curran
  • Agenda review and roll call
  • New member welcomes and introductions
  • Minutes, summary from previous meetings
  • Workshop sessions: the future of the JCP
  • Agenda review and roll call
  • Workshop sessions: the future of the JCP (continued)
  • EC stats/Personnel changes
  • 2008 calendar: schedules and locations for f2f meetings
  • Spec Lead presentation (Roger Kitain - JSR 314)
  • BenQ/Qisda JSRs (Orange France)
  • Platform Compatibility Rules

Attendance (December 4)

PMO
  • Patrick Curran
ME EC
SE/EE EC
  • BenQ - SS Chen – present
  • Jean-Marie Dautelle – present
  • Ericsson – Magnus Olsson – present
  • IBM – Steve Wolfe – present
  • Intel – Wayne Carr – present
  • Motorola – not present
  • Nokia – Pentti Savolainen – present
  • Orange France - Cuithlauac Alvarado – present
  • Philips – not present
  • RIM – Mike Rybak present
  • Samsung – Vincent Kwon present
  • Siemens – Christoph Kuhmuench present
  • Sony-Ericsson – Jeff Griffin present
  • Sun – Calinel Pasteanu, Roger Riggs present
  • Time Warner Cable – George Sarosi present
  • Vodafone – Günter Klas, Kay Glahn present

Total attendance: 14

  • Apache – Geir Magnusson present
  • BEA – Ed Cobb, Michael Rowley present
  • Eclipse – Mike Milinkovitch present
  • Fujitsu – Mike DeNicola present
  • Google – Bob Lee – present
  • HP – Scott Jameson – present
  • IBM – Steve Wolfe – present
  • Intel – Wayne Carr – present
  • Red Hat – Thomas Diesler – present
  • Doug Lea – present
  • Nortel – Harpreet Geekee – present
  • Oracle – Don Deutsch – present
  • SAP – Michael Bechauf – present
  • SAS – Rich Main – present
  • Hani Suleiman – present
  • Sun – Danny Coward, Roberto Cinni – present

Total attendance: 16

Since 12 members of each EC were present, there was a quorum for this meeting on December 4.

Attendance (December 5)

PMO
  • Patrick Curran
ME EC
SE/EE EC
  • BenQ - SS Chen – present
  • Jean-Marie Dautelle – present
  • Ericsson – Magnus Olsson – present
  • IBM – Steve Wolfe – present
  • Intel – Wayne Carr – present
  • Motorola – not present
  • Nokia – Pentti Savolainen – present
  • Orange France - Cuithlauac Alvarado – present
  • Philips – not present
  • RIM – Mike Rybak present
  • Samsung – Vincent Kwon present
  • Siemens – Christoph Kuhmuench present
  • Sony-Ericsson – Jeff Griffin present
  • Sun – Calinel Pasteanu, Roger Riggs present
  • Time Warner Cable – George Sarosi present
  • Vodafone – Günter Klas, Kay Glahn present

Total attendance: 14

  • Apache – Geir Magnusson present
  • BEA – Ed Cobb, Michael Rowley present
  • Eclipse – not present
  • Fujitsu – Mike DeNicola present
  • Google – Bob Lee – present
  • HP – Scott Jameson – present
  • IBM – Steve Wolfe – present
  • Intel – Wayne Carr – present
  • Red Hat – Thomas Diesler – present
  • Doug Lea – present
  • Nortel Networks – Harpreet Geekee – present
  • Oracle – Don Deutsch – present
  • SAP – Michael Bechauf – present
  • SAS – Rich Main – not present
  • Hani Suleiman – present
  • Sun – Danny Coward, Roberto Cinni – present

Total attendance: 14

Since 12 members of each EC were present, there was a quorum for this meeting on December 5.

Thanks

The PMO and the EC members sincerely thank Jean-Marie Dautelle and his wife for hosting the meeting. The facilities and catering were first class.

Minutes (December 4)

New member welcomes and introductions

New and existing EC members introduced themselves.

Minutes, summary from previous meetings

Approval of the minutes and summary for the November EC meeting was postponed until a future EC meeting.

Workshop sessions: the future of the JCP

The EC spent the remainder of the first day in workshop discussions on the future of the JCP.

Minutes (December 5)

Workshop sessions: the future of the JCP (continued)

The EC continued the discussions on the future of the JCP. Two resolutions were approved.

The first, being a general resolution, was voted on by both ECs:

Resolution 1 (proposed by Oracle, seconded by BEA)

"It is the sense of the Executive Committee that the JCP become an open independent vendor-neutral Standards Organization where all members participate on a level playing field with the following characteristics:

  • members fund development and management expenses
  • a legal entity with by-laws, governing body, membership, etc.
  • a new, simplified IPR Policy that permits the broadest number of implementations
  • stringent compatibility requirements
  • dedicated to promoting the Java programming model

Furthermore, the EC shall put a plan in place to make such transition as soon as practical with minimal disruption to the Java Community."

Resolution 1 vote tally
ME EC
SE/EE EC
BenQ Yes Apache Yes
Jean-Marie Dautelle Yes BEA Yes
Ericsson Yes Eclipse Absent
IBM Yes Fujitsu Yes
Intel Yes Google> Yes
Motorola Absent HP Yes
Nokia Yes IBM Yes
Orange Yes Intel Yes
Philips Absent Red Hat Yes
RIM Yes Doug Lea  Yes
Samsung Yes Nortel Yes
Siemens Yes Oracle Yes
Sony-Ericsson Yes SAP Yes
Sun Abstain SAS Absent
Time Warner Yes Hani Suleiman Yes
Vodafone Yes Sun Abstain

The second resolution, being Java SE-specific, was voted on only by the SE/EE EC:

Resolution 2 (proposed by BEA, seconded by Intel)

"The SEEE EC requests Sun to submit a Java SE7 JSR with the following characteristics:

  • EG members will share costs by contributing to the TCK and RI submitted under common licensing terms that will allow any implementer to use them;
  • accompanied by public spec, tck, ri licenses at JSR initiation;
  • licenses do not contain Field of Use restrictions on spec implementations.
  • the JSR is operated by the Spec Lead under democratic principles (e.g. Java SE6)

Furthermore, from the time of submission, TCK license(s) for Java SE5 and later will be offered without field of use restrictions on spec implementations enabling the TCK to be used by organizations including Apache."

Resolution 2 vote tally
SE/EE EC
Apache Yes
BEA Yes
Eclipse Absent
Fujitsu Yes
Google Yes
HP Abstain
IBM Abstain
Intel Yes
Red Hat Abstain
Doug Lea  Yes
Nortel Yes
Oracle Yes
SAP Yes
SAS Absent
Hani Suleiman Yes
Sun Abstain

EC stats/Personnel changes

Due to lack of time these materials were not presented or discussed, simply inserted into the record.

2008 calendar: schedules and locations for f2f meetings

Due to lack of time the EC decided to continue the discussion of next year's calendar by email.

Spec Lead presentation (Roger Kitain - JSR 314)

Due to lack of time this presentation was postponed until a future EC meeting.

BenQ/Qisda JSRs (Orange France)

Cuithlauac Alvarado led a brief discussion of the situation regarding the JSRs that are currently involved in legal intellectual property disputes. Dr Chen responded for Qisda stating that she expected that the legal situation would be resolved by the end of the first quarter in calendar year 2008.

Platform Compatibility Rules

Due to lack of time this discussion was postponed until a future EC meeting